作者：方可QlimaxX
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7月20日，深陷菠菜内幕阴谋论的Valve公司宣布十日内关停所有菠菜网站，著名媒体Fragbite采访了多位CSGO圈内人士。对于这一争议性的时间，来看一下他们的看法：

“It's obviously going out of control.I think you have to draw a line or a distinction between betting and gambling.A piece of the gambling part was always insane.Though the betting part I think has a future in CSGO.Maybe not for skins but for actual bedding just like it has in football and any other sports that you can’t even mention.So I draw a distinction between those two things.But now it's been exposed,everyone can see it.You can see how wild it truly has been.But I can understand why it has been tempting for a lot of people we've known for a long time how much money
some of those who were making,and of course attempting when
someone comes along and offers a lot of the money.I’m kind of relief that we've got to the point now.That's probably going to be gone,I'm assuming.”
—Anders Blume
“这件事明显已经失控了。我认为你应该在赌博上划清一道界限，某些赌博行为真的非常疯狂。不过我觉得菠菜是CSGO的未来,也许不是为了皮肤，但就像足球以及其它很多运动一样，这二者之间应该划清界限。现在这件事已经被曝光了，你可以看到菠菜真实的内在是有多么疯狂。我能理解为什么这对于我们认识的很多人来说具有极大的诱惑，正是因为其中所包含的巨量金钱。我很欣慰我们现在走到了这一步，我觉得那些疯狂行为将会从此消失。”
—著名CSGO解说 Anders Blume
“I don't gamble.Don't know how many people that want me to stream and gamble and stuff,but I just have my personal opinion.I don't want to get free skins and simply throw money away on the inside then make all the people think they can do the same.It’s kind of a moral thing for me,I just don't want to feel bad.Like some people might see something harmless but in my opinion it’s something that could ruin some young guy.”
—Peter 'dupreeh' Rasmussen
“我不赌博。我不知道有多少人希望我做直播或者菠菜，但我有自己的观念：我不想简简单单地拿到免费皮肤，然后让外界以为他们可以同样得到这些利益。对我来说这是道德层面上的事，我不想做坏事。也许有些人觉得菠菜还好，但我认为菠菜会毁掉一些年轻人的。”
—Astralis队员dupreeh
“I think that's the topic of interest right now.I'm not really for gambling,I don't gamble myself.But for little kids,gambling sites are probably not http://good.In the past I tried to get sponsored form a gambling site.Only purpose is to get skins so i could give it to my subs,I gave them nothing now.Sorry guys I'll try to give you guys more.I feel skeptical about even trying to be sponsored by like a site.Because in general,i don't know what the age limit is for people that watch me.So I think that's something needs to be fixed.I don't know really what the fixes for it.But maybe valve will slip into it and do something.But right now I'm not for it.I know that's kind of like the big thing that got CS bigger.Because of the skins in the gambling.But at this point this isn’t even worth it.”
—Josh 'jdm64' Marzano
“这是现在比较热门的话题，个人而言我不太赞成赌博，我自己也不赌。但是对于小孩子来说，赌博网站是有害的。曾经我接受过一家赌博网站的赞助，唯一的目的是给订阅我的观众们roll皮肤，现在我不给了，不好意思各位，我以后尽量多给。我对受到一家网站资助这种事情表示很怀疑，因为总的来说，我不知道看我直播的观众的年龄段，所以我认为这些行为需要被纠正。不过我不知道具体的方法是什么，也许valve会插手其中？我知道菠菜使CSGO发展壮大，但是如今这么做已经不值得了。”
—Liquid战队狙击手jdm64
“I think gambling is fine.But the only problem is when kids and that don't have enough mentality or concerts actually putting their money sometimes even their dads money or something  like that into it.So I think in some case we should make it more healthy for everyone above it.”
—Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
“我认为赌博本身没问题，但唯一的问题是当那些对赌博没有多少概念的小孩子们把自己的钱，甚至是自己家长的钱投进去时，这时候我们就要采取措施让菠菜这件事更加健康。”
—SK战队队员FalleN

“It’s just a gambling,for a professional player,he don't care about it.You shouldn't focus  on it,be a professional guy just shot in the head don't care about skins,focus on your in-game skills.”
—Sergey 'starix' Ischuk
“只不过是赌博而已，对于一个职业选手来说，他根本不在乎。你不应该去专注这些事，专心爆头，别去管皮肤，努力提升自己的技术。”
—NaVi战队教练，前职业选手starix

“I think that it’s a natural way how to progress.You have gambling in every sport but here,the problem is that you have young people,under age people gambling,and it's very hard for a person who was under 18 or even after 18.It's it gets addictive like drugs and it can destroy your life.I hope there will be some kind of control over it,but other than that it’s not strong.I don't see that big of a problem with gambling other than these are the people who are doing it but we have young people playing games.So there's no easy answer.”
—Wiktor 'TaZ' Wojtas
“我认为这一过程是自然而然的，每项体育运动都有赌博活动。问题是现在未成年人也在赌博，而对于十八岁以下甚至超过十八岁的人来说，这就像毒品一样会让人上瘾，这有可能会毁了你的人生。我希望菠菜能受到一定的管控。只要未成年人别赌博，这就不是什么大事，然而大多数玩家都是年轻人，所以事情远没那么简单。”
—Virtus.pro队员taz
“Personally I don't bet that much,pretty much not at all.You do your own thing and if you lose,you need to be able to handle it.If not,don’t gamble.As simple as that.”
—Philip 'aizy' Aistrup
“我个人不怎么赌博，每个人做自己该做的事，如果你输了那你就得承担得起，否则你就别赌，就这么简单。”
—FaZe队员aizy

可以看出，绝大多数职业选手都声明自己很少染指赌博。总的来说，皮肤的出现极大地帮助了CSGO在全世界的风靡，但是其带来的副作用也是需要以Valve为首的各大组织认真应对的，否则阴谋论和众多天台少年将会是整个CSGO社群的损失。
                                

作者：方可QlimaxX
链接：https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/21694622
来源：知乎
著作权归作者所有。商业转载请联系作者获得授权，非商业转载请注明出处。

7月20日，深陷菠菜内幕阴谋论的Valve公司宣布十日内关停所有菠菜网站，著名媒体Fragbite采访了多位CSGO圈内人士。对于这一争议性的时间，来看一下他们的看法：

“It's obviously going out of control.I think you have to draw a line or a distinction between betting and gambling.A piece of the gambling part was always insane.Though the betting part I think has a future in CSGO.Maybe not for skins but for actual bedding just like it has in football and any other sports that you can’t even mention.So I draw a distinction between those two things.But now it's been exposed,everyone can see it.You can see how wild it truly has been.But I can understand why it has been tempting for a lot of people we've known for a long time how much money
some of those who were making,and of course attempting when
someone comes along and offers a lot of the money.I’m kind of relief that we've got to the point now.That's probably going to be gone,I'm assuming.”
—Anders Blume
“这件事明显已经失控了。我认为你应该在赌博上划清一道界限，某些赌博行为真的非常疯狂。不过我觉得菠菜是CSGO的未来,也许不是为了皮肤，但就像足球以及其它很多运动一样，这二者之间应该划清界限。现在这件事已经被曝光了，你可以看到菠菜真实的内在是有多么疯狂。我能理解为什么这对于我们认识的很多人来说具有极大的诱惑，正是因为其中所包含的巨量金钱。我很欣慰我们现在走到了这一步，我觉得那些疯狂行为将会从此消失。”
—著名CSGO解说 Anders Blume
“I don't gamble.Don't know how many people that want me to stream and gamble and stuff,but I just have my personal opinion.I don't want to get free skins and simply throw money away on the inside then make all the people think they can do the same.It’s kind of a moral thing for me,I just don't want to feel bad.Like some people might see something harmless but in my opinion it’s something that could ruin some young guy.”
—Peter 'dupreeh' Rasmussen
“我不赌博。我不知道有多少人希望我做直播或者菠菜，但我有自己的观念：我不想简简单单地拿到免费皮肤，然后让外界以为他们可以同样得到这些利益。对我来说这是道德层面上的事，我不想做坏事。也许有些人觉得菠菜还好，但我认为菠菜会毁掉一些年轻人的。”
—Astralis队员dupreeh
“I think that's the topic of interest right now.I'm not really for gambling,I don't gamble myself.But for little kids,gambling sites are probably not http://good.In the past I tried to get sponsored form a gambling site.Only purpose is to get skins so i could give it to my subs,I gave them nothing now.Sorry guys I'll try to give you guys more.I feel skeptical about even trying to be sponsored by like a site.Because in general,i don't know what the age limit is for people that watch me.So I think that's something needs to be fixed.I don't know really what the fixes for it.But maybe valve will slip into it and do something.But right now I'm not for it.I know that's kind of like the big thing that got CS bigger.Because of the skins in the gambling.But at this point this isn’t even worth it.”
—Josh 'jdm64' Marzano
“这是现在比较热门的话题，个人而言我不太赞成赌博，我自己也不赌。但是对于小孩子来说，赌博网站是有害的。曾经我接受过一家赌博网站的赞助，唯一的目的是给订阅我的观众们roll皮肤，现在我不给了，不好意思各位，我以后尽量多给。我对受到一家网站资助这种事情表示很怀疑，因为总的来说，我不知道看我直播的观众的年龄段，所以我认为这些行为需要被纠正。不过我不知道具体的方法是什么，也许valve会插手其中？我知道菠菜使CSGO发展壮大，但是如今这么做已经不值得了。”
—Liquid战队狙击手jdm64
“I think gambling is fine.But the only problem is when kids and that don't have enough mentality or concerts actually putting their money sometimes even their dads money or something  like that into it.So I think in some case we should make it more healthy for everyone above it.”
—Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
“我认为赌博本身没问题，但唯一的问题是当那些对赌博没有多少概念的小孩子们把自己的钱，甚至是自己家长的钱投进去时，这时候我们就要采取措施让菠菜这件事更加健康。”
—SK战队队员FalleN

“It’s just a gambling,for a professional player,he don't care about it.You shouldn't focus  on it,be a professional guy just shot in the head don't care about skins,focus on your in-game skills.”
—Sergey 'starix' Ischuk
“只不过是赌博而已，对于一个职业选手来说，他根本不在乎。你不应该去专注这些事，专心爆头，别去管皮肤，努力提升自己的技术。”
—NaVi战队教练，前职业选手starix

“I think that it’s a natural way how to progress.You have gambling in every sport but here,the problem is that you have young people,under age people gambling,and it's very hard for a person who was under 18 or even after 18.It's it gets addictive like drugs and it can destroy your life.I hope there will be some kind of control over it,but other than that it’s not strong.I don't see that big of a problem with gambling other than these are the people who are doing it but we have young people playing games.So there's no easy answer.”
—Wiktor 'TaZ' Wojtas
“我认为这一过程是自然而然的，每项体育运动都有赌博活动。问题是现在未成年人也在赌博，而对于十八岁以下甚至超过十八岁的人来说，这就像毒品一样会让人上瘾，这有可能会毁了你的人生。我希望菠菜能受到一定的管控。只要未成年人别赌博，这就不是什么大事，然而大多数玩家都是年轻人，所以事情远没那么简单。”
—Virtus.pro队员taz
“Personally I don't bet that much,pretty much not at all.You do your own thing and if you lose,you need to be able to handle it.If not,don’t gamble.As simple as that.”
—Philip 'aizy' Aistrup
“我个人不怎么赌博，每个人做自己该做的事，如果你输了那你就得承担得起，否则你就别赌，就这么简单。”
—FaZe队员aizy

可以看出，绝大多数职业选手都声明自己很少染指赌博。总的来说，皮肤的出现极大地帮助了CSGO在全世界的风靡，但是其带来的副作用也是需要以Valve为首的各大组织认真应对的，否则阴谋论和众多天台少年将会是整个CSGO社群的损失。